G'day, all
I have just now noticed that, when I save a new untitled NWP file with Format "Rich Text Format (RTF)", the file is saved with Kind set to "Nisus Writer Glossary" rather than to "rich text format (RTF)” which I think it always has been in the past.
I see a few of my existing files with Kind still set to "Rich Text Format (RTF)", but most are now "Nisus Writer Glossary".
Have I been missing this all along, or has something changed?
All these files have file extension ".rtf".
Cheers,
Adrian
File Kind “Nisus Writer Glossary"
File Kind “Nisus Writer Glossary"
MacBook Pro (M1 Pro, 2021)
macOS Ventura
Nisus Writer user since 1996
macOS Ventura
Nisus Writer user since 1996
- martin
- Official Nisus Person
- Posts: 5227
- Joined: 2002-07-11 17:14:10
- Location: San Diego, CA
- Contact:
Re: File Kind “Nisus Writer Glossary"
Hi Adrian: the quick answer is that you shouldn't worry about it much. What "kind" label is displayed by macOS and the Finder doesn't really matter. Nisus Writer and other apps really only care about the file extension and the data inside the file. That's going to be .rtf / RTF, even if the Finder incorrectly thinks they're glossary files.
I'm not sure why you're seeing files incorrectly labelled this way. That's up to the system, based on information it derives from Nisus Writer. We declare certain file extensions as having certain labels. The glossary file label is declared as having a file extension of .ngloss, and thus should not be shown for .rtf files.
Most likely the problem is that your system "launch services database" is confused. You might read this article that describes the database and goes into some details on how you might reset it. I hope that helps.
I'm not sure why you're seeing files incorrectly labelled this way. That's up to the system, based on information it derives from Nisus Writer. We declare certain file extensions as having certain labels. The glossary file label is declared as having a file extension of .ngloss, and thus should not be shown for .rtf files.
Most likely the problem is that your system "launch services database" is confused. You might read this article that describes the database and goes into some details on how you might reset it. I hope that helps.
Re: File Kind “Nisus Writer Glossary"
G'day, Martin et al
Thanks for the reply, Martin.
I read the article you referred me to (thanks) and ran Onyx, which was one of the suggested maneuvers, but no change to the Kind.
Faced with a choice between Martin's "Fret not" advice and wielding the Terminal scalpel to perform more major neurosurgery on my computer than I'm comfortable with, I think I'll opt for the former.
Cheers,
Adrian
Thanks for the reply, Martin.
I read the article you referred me to (thanks) and ran Onyx, which was one of the suggested maneuvers, but no change to the Kind.
Faced with a choice between Martin's "Fret not" advice and wielding the Terminal scalpel to perform more major neurosurgery on my computer than I'm comfortable with, I think I'll opt for the former.
Cheers,
Adrian
MacBook Pro (M1 Pro, 2021)
macOS Ventura
Nisus Writer user since 1996
macOS Ventura
Nisus Writer user since 1996
Re: File Kind “Nisus Writer Glossary"
I'm experiencing this as well. I save an .rtf file, and the Finder (and DEVONthink) 'describes' it by 'Kind' as a "Nisus Writer Glossary" file.
Furthermore, if such a file is saved into DEVONthink, it isn't editable in that application, as RTFs normally are (and it's not locked in Finder, I checked).
I have to make use of DEVONthink's command to 'convert the file to rtf' (even though it seems it already is rtf). Then that converted file is editable in DEVONthink.
Furthermore, when I look at the original file and the converted file in the Finder, the original is, as before, listed as "Nisus Writer Glossary" but the converted one is listed as .rtf.
I may have to set up a 'smart rule' in DEVONthink, so that, when apparent rtfs from Nisus are imported, but which are 'really' "Nisus Writer Glossary" files, they get converted as above, and the original deleted.
So it's all a bit problematic and inconvenient.
Furthermore, if such a file is saved into DEVONthink, it isn't editable in that application, as RTFs normally are (and it's not locked in Finder, I checked).
I have to make use of DEVONthink's command to 'convert the file to rtf' (even though it seems it already is rtf). Then that converted file is editable in DEVONthink.
Furthermore, when I look at the original file and the converted file in the Finder, the original is, as before, listed as "Nisus Writer Glossary" but the converted one is listed as .rtf.
I may have to set up a 'smart rule' in DEVONthink, so that, when apparent rtfs from Nisus are imported, but which are 'really' "Nisus Writer Glossary" files, they get converted as above, and the original deleted.
So it's all a bit problematic and inconvenient.
Re: File Kind “Nisus Writer Glossary"
Hello Adryan,I have just now noticed that, when I save a new untitled NWP file with Format "Rich Text Format (RTF)", the file is saved with Kind set to "Nisus Writer Glossary" rather than to "rich text format (RTF)” which I think it always has been in the past.
I have seen this too, but I think this happens only in v3.0.4. This doesn't happen in v3.0.3 and v3.1.
Re: File Kind “Nisus Writer Glossary"
Hello nev,
What I still find a bit irritating is that a RTF file, created in NWP v3.0.3 or v3.1, and saved into DEVONthink is still not editable in that application although the Finder and DEVONthink describe it by 'Kind' as a "rich text (RTF)" file.
Perhaps we should not be complaining after all, because this is in fact exactly what the experienced user wants: prevent DEVONthink from tampering with imported RTF files (from Nisus).
Instead, look at the screenshot and create a Smart Rule as described here:
https://nisus.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=11714
As I already said, this goes away if we use v3.0.3 or v3.1.I'm experiencing this as well. I save an .rtf file, and the Finder (and DEVONthink) 'describes' it by 'Kind' as a "Nisus Writer Glossary" file.
What I still find a bit irritating is that a RTF file, created in NWP v3.0.3 or v3.1, and saved into DEVONthink is still not editable in that application although the Finder and DEVONthink describe it by 'Kind' as a "rich text (RTF)" file.
Perhaps we should not be complaining after all, because this is in fact exactly what the experienced user wants: prevent DEVONthink from tampering with imported RTF files (from Nisus).
Yep, I can confirm that. But did you notice that the file was drastically changed? The special features (footnotes and styles) are now all missing, and the file size is down to 1/3 of the original size!I have to make use of DEVONthink's command to 'convert the file to rtf' (even though it seems it already is rtf). Then that converted file is editable in DEVONthink.
Don't do that! Unless you want to dig your own grave…I may have to set up a 'smart rule' in DEVONthink, so that, when apparent rtfs from Nisus are imported, but which are 'really' "Nisus Writer Glossary" files, they get converted as above, and the original deleted.
Instead, look at the screenshot and create a Smart Rule as described here:
https://nisus.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=11714
Re: File Kind “Nisus Writer Glossary"
G'day, Þorvarður et al
Yes, I would have been using NWP 3.0.4 at the time. I haven't had a problem with NWP 3.1.
I don't use DEVONthink, but Þorvarður's concluding remarks embody a salutary caution in a broader context. I would never delete the original file of an important document in the expectation that some automatically invoked conversion process will do precisely what I want it to do, with respect to both completeness and accuracy.
Cheers,
Adrian
Yes, I would have been using NWP 3.0.4 at the time. I haven't had a problem with NWP 3.1.
I don't use DEVONthink, but Þorvarður's concluding remarks embody a salutary caution in a broader context. I would never delete the original file of an important document in the expectation that some automatically invoked conversion process will do precisely what I want it to do, with respect to both completeness and accuracy.
Cheers,
Adrian
MacBook Pro (M1 Pro, 2021)
macOS Ventura
Nisus Writer user since 1996
macOS Ventura
Nisus Writer user since 1996
Re: File Kind “Nisus Writer Glossary"
Thanks for your confirmation, Adryan.Yes, I would have been using NWP 3.0.4 at the time. I haven't had a problem with NWP 3.1.