New Office 2011: What You'd like in Nisus

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New Office 2011: What You'd like in Nisus

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Hej all,

So I just bought *cof cof* the newest Office 2011. And to be honest, it's actually quite nice. So I make this post to write which features from Office 2011 (Word) you'd like to see in Nisus.

Cheers!

01) I'd like a search box within the "main document". NIsus has the most powerful search function I've ever seen, so it'd be nice to have it right there in the document for quick access.
02) Maybe a new logo?

That's it for now, bye!

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An easy-to-use out-of-the-box outlining mode

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Never forgetting the vertical ruler!!! :P

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greg30577 wrote:An easy-to-use out-of-the-box outlining mode
I second that. I am using OmniOutliner, but although it has a lot of nice touches, it definitely does not translate into some sort of heavy duty word processing. Wods outline mode, on the other hand, is still cumbersome. A very nice touch would be the OPML import and export ...
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While I like to do my preliminary outlining work in a dedicated app, like CP NoteBook, I find that the outlining features of NWP are really handy. I work with the Navigator always open, so that I can have the outline and my text onscreen at the same time. Sort of a basic Scrivener, with powerful formatting options.

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Yes, working with the Navigator does the trick for longer documents - more like navigating in a Browser. The downside is that I cannot see distant entries at the same time, because there is no way of collapsing the separate levels.
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Thomas, I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but Opt-clicking on an arrow next to a high-level entry in the Navigator also collapses all lower entries. This is a quick way to see less items in the Navigator.

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Thank you for the tip. Yes I use that feature. As I said: works great for long documents. And I use it when navigating in a multi-page text. Not quite outlining, but sort of.
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As we've discussed a number of times before, very credible outlining can be achieved using Paragraph Styles incorporating List features and the Navigator pane for, well, navigating.

A further feature would be to have body text attach to the outline heads. That would be a variation on the "keep with next paragraph" (only we would want it to keep with the previous paragraph rather than the next one), but allowing text to flow over page breaks, so that when we moved the head in the Navigator, the body text would go with it.

Then of course, we would want the Styles to change in both head and associated body together. E.g. I have Head 1, followed by Body 1, head 2 followed by Body 2, and so on. If I changed the level of the Head 1 to Head 3, I would like the attached Body 1 text to chqnge style to Body 3 automatically.

That would be great.

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Bear in mind that this comes from an individual that is severelky physically handicapped and therefore my requests are very specific, but my requests would benefit every user that suffers from eyestrain, and further suffers from the frustratrion vrought on by the modern auto-formatting style systems present in all major word processors - Nisus included. Therefore. here are my requests:

1. Only one of my limbs is usable with any degree of finesse and thats my left arm. That means that i type one handed and that severely restricts how fast i can type (although with enough morphine in me I have hit 80 wpm in short bursts but thats hardly relevant). I also have really bad arthritis and that means whenever there is the slightest change in weather (humidity / temperature / etc. etc.) you can take my average typing speed and cut it in half. However - what really drives me nuts about word processing programs these days is that at some point everybody decided that the default cursor should be this sliver of a line that is incredibly small unless you use ridiculously huge font sizes, and to make things worse they also decided that same sliver of a line should blink on and off every second, which makes tracking it with eyes that have any degree of vision problems downright maddening. Now - I didn't know this when I bought it, but it turns out that you wonderful folks at Nisus have bucked convention in this regard and make it so that its possible to make the cursor larger, but it would be REALLY cool if you added a preference that a.) allowed you to specify that you want a cursor that is a perfect rectangle just like in word for DOS and Word?Perfect 5.1 for DOS and b.) add another preference that decides how big that cursor should be regardless of font size (within reason - obviously making it TOO BIG would screw up the line spacing of documents and stuff) and finally c.) add a preference that allows you to turn cursor blink on and off. (Ive asked microsoft to do this for years for both the windows and mac versions of Word, the folks at OpenOffice and NeoOffice, Abiword, among many others. and every year they in no uncertain terms claim that doing so would basically require they rewrite the entire application) - im not a coder and never will be, but i honestly cant logically grasp how this could be so -- the creator of Scrivener added all the features I just listed two weeks after I asked him to, (and furthermore said it took all of a few days to get running) and thats why I will buy Scrivener every time it is updated and released to the public for the rest of my life.

2. The reason I bought Nisus is because I was told by other writers that it is far easier to edit custom styles, and the one thing that Scrivener or Word DO NOT DO WELL AT ALL is allow for the creation of auto-formatting styles that make creating sophisticated outlines possible [b]and very easy[/b][u][/u]. However - either I'm simply doing something terribly wrong or the custom style creation system for outlines needs an overhaul because I have tried and tried and tried to create my own outline styles and have failed miserably... therefore i respectfully request that the style system be overhauled so that its really easy to use and / or you create a special view JUST FOR creating sophisticated multitiered outlines that ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE (unlike word0.

As soon as I finish this post Im going to write another in the Nisus Pro support forum that requests that someone capable of bending the cudtom outline style system to their will take me under their wing an teach me, because I have this feeling deep down that what im missing is ridiculously simple, and that once Im taught properly I'll be generating outlines for novels that are scores of pages long and formatted exactly as i want them to be... if push comes to shove you can turn auto formatting off in both Nisus & Word and manually create multi-tiered outlines the hard way, but it takes FOREVER.. and the fewer key strokes I have to make the better off I am...

All in all, Nisus is an EXCELLENT product, which is why i bought it... and as soon as I figure out how to get custom outlines down properly it will become a major part of my daily workflow - from outlining novels, to short stories and multi-part blog posts. With a few additions to the accessibility features and an overhaul of how styles are custom created you'll have yourselves a product that will give Word and its contemporaries a serious run for their money. (Although something tells me from the number of forum posts that you already are). Regardless you can count on recieving money from me whenever you release a new version, regardless of whether yoy add what I've asked for or not. Nisus Pro truly is an awesome product!

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