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Spell checking

Post by phspaelti » 2015-05-29 09:11:55

I am not a big user of spell checking, but I was fooling around with things, and I tried spell checking all the permutations of various words, and I come up with results that I don't really understand. Just to be clear what I'm talking about, consider the word cat. The permutations of cat are:

act atc cat cta tac tca

And spell checking "reasonably" flags "atc", "cta" and "tca" as misspelled, and lets the rest pass. Okay. (What is "tac"?)
Now comes the weird part. If I try the permutations of "please", the following list seems to pass muster with the spell checker:

slapee spelea asleep aspeel asplee apsele apeles elapse laspee leespa palese palees pesale peales pelase peleas please

"Please", "asleep" and "elapse" are fine of course, and "slapee" might be useful in a legal context, but do people recognise any of those other "words"? But things get weirder. I tried "highlight" (which has 15,120 permutations) and the following list passes the spell check test:

highlight lhtghihig lighthigh glghhihit ggiitlhhh gihhgtihl ihgtihghl ihgihlthg

Really?
I tried quite a few other words at random and I get lots of similar results. I guess I'll continue to rely on the human version.

I wish a happy glghhihit to everyone!
philip

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Re: Spell checking

Post by martin » 2015-05-29 14:33:05

And a very happy glghhihit to you too Philip! It's really the best time of the year for Glghhihit, haha.
What's even more odd: for some reason lowercase gihhgtihl is not flagged, while uppercase Gihhgtihl is marked as misspelled.

Well, the results on my end are not quite as bad. Many of your gibberish words did not pass muster on my Mac:
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Which spelling dictionary are you using? I'm using the OSX default U.S. English dictionary. Which words are flagged is really up to the spelling dictionary, and not Nisus Writer Pro. I know there's some heuristics built into the dictionaries, and not just a static word list, but the results are still rather mystifying.

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Re: Spell checking

Post by Beurlen » 2015-11-18 04:09:05

Notwithstanding my problem is not exacty the same of this topic, but it is related as it has to do with spell checking.

Saving a file, I am asked for a file name, and I type the name, but the spell checker changes the name.

For instances, I save a file and type (in portuguese) "2015.11.18 Lista de Material". The spell checker canges the name to "2015.11.18 Listaliissttaa de Materialmaatteerriiaall".

In "System/Preferences/Keyboard/Text" the option Correct Spelling automatically is disabled.

I am wondering how can I get rid of this odd behavior?

OS 10.11.1, NW Pro 2.1.2

Regards,

G. Beurlen

Rio de Janeiro

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Re: Spell checking

Post by Beurlen » 2015-11-18 07:11:51

In the meantime I discovered that this only happens with Capitalized words...

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Re: Spell checking

Post by martin » 2015-11-18 11:57:21

That's very strange Beurlen. I assume you observe this behavior in the standard system save dialog? If so, the unwanted correction must come from your system (OSX) or some installed enhancing software, and not Nisus Writer. That's because once the save dialog is shown, Nisus has little control over it. In fact, under sandboxing the save dialog is actually something like a separate app, for security reasons.

Do you have any system-wide enhancing software installed? I'm thinking of some kind of spelling or grammar checking software, or perhaps some kind of text snippet expanders. If so, you might disable them to see if that makes a difference. You might also check your active keyboard layout; are you using any not provided by Apple?

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Re: Spell checking

Post by Beurlen » 2015-11-19 02:39:23

Hi Martin,

thank you very much for your advice: in fact, the culprit of this strange behavior is Typinator!!! Qutting it, solves the issue!!

I will see if there is any solution in the Preferences of Typinator and will send a report to Ergonis.

Thanks. Beurlen

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Re: Spell checking

Post by martin » 2015-11-19 14:00:41

I was happy to help, and I'm glad you discovered the source of the problem.

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