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A problem with quotation marks

Posted: 2008-01-21 19:09:46
by Rachmede
Hi everyone,

I have a little problem with quotation marks. I usually write in french and, by convention, we have to put a space between each quotation mark and the word beside of it. For exemple : «SPACEblablablaSPACE». (In french, quotation marks looks like this : « », instead of this '' '' ). This sometimes creates a problem when a quotation mark happens to be alone on the line : the opening mark at the end of a line while the quotation begins on the next line, or the closing mark at the beginning of a line when the quotation ends at the end of the previous line.

Is there are way to solve this problem and make sure no quotation marks are left alone ?

Thank you.

Re: A problem with quotation marks

Posted: 2008-01-21 19:24:04
by xiamenese
Rachmede wrote:Hi everyone,

I have a little problem with quotation marks. I usually write in french and, by convention, we have to put a space between each quotation mark and the word beside of it. For exemple : «SPACEblablablaSPACE». (In french, quotation marks looks like this : « », instead of this '' '' ). This sometimes creates a problem when a quotation mark happens to be alone on the line : the opening mark at the end of a line while the quotation begins on the next line, or the closing mark at the beginning of a line when the quotation ends at the end of the previous line.

Is there are way to solve this problem and make sure no quotation marks are left alone ?

Thank you.
Put a soft return (press Shift-Return) just before your opening quotation mark. That will ensure the mark stays on the same line with the text you are entering, but will treat all that follows as part of the same paragraph as all that precedes from a formatting point of view, nor will there be no extra line space.

Mark

Posted: 2008-01-21 20:00:15
by Rachmede
Thank you, this solves the case of the opening mark left alone with the quote starting on the next line, but it does not works when the closing mark is alone while the end of the quote is on the previous line, wich is, unfortunatly, what happens most often :D

Posted: 2008-01-22 00:17:15
by Elbrecht
Hi -

ever tried the following? Place a NON BREAKING SPACE after your first CITATION MARK and before your last CITATION MARK. With Apple's "Character Palette" the NON BREAKING SPACE "U+00A0" is in the "Latin-1 Supplement" Code Table: the very first SPACE before the beginning INVERTED EXCLAMATION MARK.
I customized my keyboard to include the NON BREAKING SPACE with SIL's "Ukelele" tool:
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page ... id=ukelele
That's easily done and you can fix other troubles this way too...

HE

NO-BREAK SPACE

Posted: 2008-01-22 00:27:58
by Hamid
Elbrecht wrote:I customized my keyboard to include the NON BREAKING SPACE with SIL's "Ukelele" tool
You don't need to do that. I just press Option-Spacebar which gives me NO-BREAK SPACE (U+00A0) in all the fonts that I use.

Posted: 2008-01-22 00:43:45
by Elbrecht
Hamid -

I was not sure about FRENCH keyboard handling...

HE

Posted: 2008-01-22 01:25:41
by Hamid
It is the same on all the keyboards that I use: US Extended, British, French, Russian, Arabic and Persian. I just checked German and it is not different.
In NW Classic you can also obtain a corresponding (non-Unicode) character by pressing Option-Spacebar.

Posted: 2008-01-22 07:41:14
by Rachmede
Hey,

thank you verry much !

I confirm, my keybord (in french - Canada ) is not different than any US keyboard... well somme keys are dedicated to specific french accent like "À" "É" Â Ï.. etc, but that's all.