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Wingdings as bullet points

Posted: 2014-07-12 18:51:48
by tlw55
Whenever I try to use a wingding character as a bullet point I get this: (see attached png file)
It doesn't seem to matter which wingding character I use the result is the same. I am able to insert the wingding characters into a document but am unable to use them as bullet points. Is there a way to do this?

Re: Wingdings as bullet points

Posted: 2014-07-13 01:43:01
by phspaelti
Have you tried applying a suitable font to the list item? (Open the list style in the style sheet, select the list item, and apply the font.)
List Item Font.png
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Re: Wingdings as bullet points

Posted: 2014-07-13 06:09:08
by tlw55
I tried your tip and it looks right in the style sheet but appear the same as before in the actual list. I did notice that the wingdings do not allow for font variations while the other categories of special characters do somewhat. Would that be the problem?
Thank you for responding, Terry

Re: Wingdings as bullet points

Posted: 2014-07-13 08:54:35
by xiamenese
Can I ask which particular Winding you wish to use?

Mark

Re: Wingdings as bullet points

Posted: 2014-07-13 10:31:47
by tlw55

PRIVATE USE AREA-F026
Unicode: U+F026, UTF-8: EF 80 A6

Under Dingbats > Wingdings regular > looks like an "open book"

Re: Wingdings as bullet points

Posted: 2014-07-14 03:59:16
by xiamenese
tlw55 wrote:
PRIVATE USE AREA-F026
Unicode: U+F026, UTF-8: EF 80 A6

Under Dingbats > Wingdings regular > looks like an "open book"
I merely asked, because many, many moons ago — in fact several years — I wanted the “ballot box” dingbat available as a bullet point, and Martin obliged by including it in the list of symbols available as bullets in the “lists” palette, along with the ticked version, but not the crossed version. At that time, he said it was an easy change to make. Obviously, if Nisus included every dingbat anyone ever wanted in that list, it would become unweildy, so …

Perhaps it is time to make a suggestion. Would it be possible to include “custom” in that list of bullets, with the code to allow the user to enter the specific dingbat they require?

Martin, if you’re reading this? :)

Mark

Re: Wingdings as bullet points

Posted: 2014-07-14 06:38:10
by tlw55
I heartily concur! A custom setting makes good sense.

Re: Wingdings as bullet points

Posted: 2014-07-14 15:42:59
by martin
tlw55 wrote:I tried your tip and it looks right in the style sheet but appear the same as before in the actual list.
Webdings and Wingdings are sensitive. If you want to use a character in their repertoire (eg: the open book symbol), you must make sure that the proper font is also applied. If the applied font changes, or you copy-paste the characters as plain text, you'll see that weird placeholder character instead. Please make absolutely sure that the Wingdings font is enforced via your list style, and that you do not override that font with other formatting in your document. I'm attaching an example document that shows the potential problems.
dings.zrtf
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Depending on your desires, you might make use of the Unicode emoji book character instead. Regardless of the font applied, it will always show as a book (so long as the app is modern enough to handle Unicode emoji).
xiamenese wrote:Perhaps it is time to make a suggestion. Would it be possible to include “custom” in that list of bullets, with the code to allow the user to enter the specific dingbat they require?
A user can already enter whatever custom character they'd like for their List style definitions, so I'm not sure I understand. We wouldn't add something like the Wingding's open book character to the default/standard list because (as we've seen here) it's finicky.

Re: Wingdings as bullet points

Posted: 2014-07-14 17:53:19
by tlw55
Thank you Martin. The attachment cleared things up for me. I knew there was a "trick" to it. Just couldn't figure it out. BTW, I love the Nisus interface.

Re: Wingdings as bullet points

Posted: 2014-07-16 12:24:15
by martin
That's great, I'm glad everything is clear and you have the Wingding character appearing as desired. These kinds of font/formatting situations can sometimes be a bit tricky, since there are so many ways to enforce a font, eg: list styles, other styles, the applied language's secondary font, manually applied fonts, etc.

And I'm also happy to hear that you enjoy Nisus Writer's interface!