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				Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2017-11-13 01:08:22
				by ngazidja
				Hi all, I've just upgraded to High Sierra and amongst all the things that have gone wrong, in NWP I can no longer highlight a piece of text and then drag and drop it somewhere else. I can't find a preference to adjust this, and I suspect it's at the system level since it's only since I upgraded. Any suggestions? It' a lot more convenient than cut paste.
Thanks.
Iain.
			 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2017-11-13 03:34:47
				by ngazidja
				(It's only in NWP, still works fine in TextEdit. Curious.)
			 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2017-11-13 07:01:58
				by ngazidja
				And now it works again. I didn't even relaunch NWP. I guess High Sierra was just thinking about it...
			 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2017-11-13 11:05:48
				by pgiltner
				My experience is that I need to wait three seconds for Drag & Drop to work in NWP. Works instantaneously in other apps
(machine is MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012))
			 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2017-11-13 14:02:10
				by MacSailor
				pgiltner wrote:My experience is that I need to wait three seconds for Drag & Drop to work in NWP. Works instantaneously in other apps
(machine is MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012))
My experience is that it works instantly in NWP as well in more or less all other applications I have used. (MBP 15-inch, Mid 2012, 16 GB RAM,  High Sierra 10.13.1, NWP 2.1.7)
 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2017-11-13 14:06:56
				by pgiltner
				What I have to do is to click on the text and wait till the "I" shaped insertion point changes to the black arrow, then it works. I can't figure out what's slowing this down! Ugh!
			 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2017-11-14 00:24:01
				by ngazidja
				Ah, wait for the black arrow. That works.
			 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2017-11-14 05:43:14
				by pgiltner
				I ran etrecheck (
www.etrecheck.com), found some old daemons to get rid of, reboot, and we seem to be ok now.
 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2017-11-14 05:44:34
				by pgiltner
				Oh, yeah, and did a safe mode boot, let it stand overnight, too.
			 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2017-11-15 18:31:30
				by martin
				The click delay to discern between changing the selection and starting drag is something that's controlled by the Mac system, so I'm afraid if it's not working very smoothly we don't have any great advice to offer. I'm glad some system cleaning removed the unwanted delays.
			 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2020-01-02 04:16:30
				by pgiltner
				Amazingly, now after two years, I see the drag + drop problem showing up in another way, now with Catalina, same machine.
Again, drag + Drop works fine in all other applications, but in Nisus, I get a 3d gray button with a white downward pointing carat-arrow, which provides sharing menu options. These are all things from the system, not Nisus. 
The  normal control-click choices, like copy, paste, etc, for selected text do not appear, but will if I hold down the "control" key.
I suspect this has something to do with my machine being so old, but it really works great with everything else (after new SSD instead of HD).
			 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2020-01-02 08:17:51
				by frazman10
				I was having the same problem in Nisus Express when in a draft mode, not page mode. I found if I just add one character to the page, the page will handle drag and drop properly. In other words,  I only had the problem when adding picture to blank page. I hope this helps.
Joe
			 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2020-01-02 10:45:01
				by martin
				pgiltner wrote: ↑2020-01-02 04:16:30
Again, drag + Drop works fine in all other applications, but in Nisus, I get a 3d gray button with a white downward pointing carat-arrow, which provides sharing menu options. These are all things from the system, not Nisus. 
 
It sounds like you're taking about this menu:
			
		
				
			 
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Is that the menu? If so then you're correct that it's a system provided sharing menu. Nisus does not directly control when that menu appears. I've only seen the system show that menu for images. It sounds like you see this menu for regular text, while trying to drag-drop? That's unexpected and I don't know what would cause it.
 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2020-01-02 10:49:37
				by pgiltner
				that's the right menu. However, a restart made it go away. I am now going to see how long before it happens again.
			 
			
					
				Re: Drag and drop gone
				Posted: 2020-01-02 12:43:35
				by pgiltner
				OK: I turned off the "share menu items" for "actions" restarted, and the problem went away.
Then turned the "share menu items" for "actions" again, and it's back.
[img]
https://imgur.com/a/ZWRkkJ0[/img]
so then I took a screenshot (command-shift-3, because 4 would not work), alt tab back & forth to finder 
and now drag and drop is working again.