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"times new roman" in new 1.1 version

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This may sound crazy, but I hate "times new roman" and prefer "times".
I see the new version defaults to "new roman"... sneaky!
I figured out how to change the default new document to use just "times" in preferences. Can I change the default font for comments as well?

Thanks!
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Post by ptram »

Here (Tiger 10.4.11) it defults in Times, both for text and comments.

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Post by counterpt »

Thanks,

I'm using Leopard 10.5.2
I also asked it to use the factory settings in the prefs.

Thanks again.
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Guys, just change it! That's what prefs are for -- individual preferences! I wouldn't use default prefs in ANY program because none of them suit me.

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greenmorpher wrote:Guys, just change it! That's what prefs are for -- individual preferences! I wouldn't use default prefs in ANY program because none of them suit me.
Sure! How do you change the default comments font?
Thanks.
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Post by greenmorpher »

My apologies counterpt, I didn't compute the "comments" reference -- its the first couple of minutes of my day so my head isn't up to full speed yet! :P

Changing the comments font? I have no idea. Not a feature of use to me.

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Post by xiamenese »

Hi counterpt,

You can set the comment style in each document individually but not as a global preference.

1) By default the comments should be in the font set as the default font in Nisus New File, so if you have that set to Times Roman, they will be in Times Roman, not TNR.

2) If you want to change it, select a comment and highlight the text; switch to the Styles palette — you will see that there is a "Comment" style — but while your text in the comments box is highlighted, use the Character palette to set the font and face you want; then from the Gearwheel menu below the styles list in the Styles palette, choose Redefine Style from Selection; and there you are.

3) An alternative is, of course, that once you have at least one comment in place, you can go to Styles and adjust the "Comment" style there.

4) You can't set it as a global default, since the "Comment" style only appears on the style list when you have created a comment; since Nisus New File is a blank document, the "Comment" style doesn't appear.

Perhaps point 4 is something that Nisus might like to consider for a future release. Martin? :)

HTH

Mark
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Post by xiamenese »

Following on from the above, you can set a global comment style:

1: choose "Edit Nisus New File" from the preferences;
2: type in some text and add a comment to it;
3: go to Styles View and set the font, size, etc. as you wish;
4: return to Page View and delete all the text and the comment;
5: save the "Nisus New File"

All new files you open will now come with a comment style as set.

:)

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Post by counterpt »

Thank you xiamenese,

I played with if after you comments.

This worked for me (almost like yours)

1. Preference / New file
2. Format tab
3. choose "normal" from "use style"
4. pick favorite font (it automatically applies to comments).

Initially I made a mistake and didn't do #3 (left blank). This chose the default font correctly but reverted to TNR when "normal" style was selected. I guess "comment" and "normal" styles are linked and are the same.

I couldn't have done it without you thanks again
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Post by xiamenese »

counterpt wrote:Thank you xiamenese,

I played with if after you comments.

This worked for me (almost like yours)

1. Preference / New file
2. Format tab
3. choose "normal" from "use style"
4. pick favorite font (it automatically applies to comments).

Initially I made a mistake and didn't do #3 (left blank). This chose the default font correctly but reverted to TNR when "normal" style was selected. I guess "comment" and "normal" styles are linked and are the same.

I couldn't have done it without you thanks again
Not at all, my pleasure. The thing about doing it my way is that you can set your font for "normal" to be Times Roman 12pt, say, but then change the size for comments to have them in 10 pt, for instance. If you look at the "comment" style you will see that it is "Based on: normal", with no overrides, i.e. it is the same as "normal".

Another thing you might want to do with comments, given the size of the box ... if your "normal" style is fully justified, it might be worth experimenting with setting comments to "left justified" in view of the short line length. I haven't tried that, so I don't know if it will work in the Nisus New File using my method.

Cheers,

Mark
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Post by martin »

Ahh, good detective work Mark! Whenever you add a comment to any document, NWP checks the following list to decide which paragraph style to apply to that comment:

1. If the current document has a paragraph style named "Comments" it will be applied to the new comment.
2. If your Nisus New File has a paragraph style named "Comments" a copy of that style will be made and added to the current document. It will then be applied to the new comment.
3. NWP will create a new paragraph style named "Comments", which will be based on the "Normal" style found in the current document. I believe NWP forces all indents to be zero for the newly added Comments style. It is then applied to the new comment.
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