character not contained in font

[shob72]

In the font I use as default preference, certain characters are not contained. When I type "ẓ" for instance, NWP switches to Times Roman (see attachment). Is there any way to add a character to a font? Or where can I possibly get a version of this font which does contain the character? (I used to work with exactly this font under NWP on another computer, and the character was there.)

[martin]

There's no way to add characters to a font, unless you're a font designer. It's possible your other Mac has a different version of Palatino that does contain the character. If so, you could just copy the font over. The other possibility is that your other Mac has this NWP warning disabled.

[Elbrecht]

Sebastian -

Apple Palatino running latest Leopard version definitely has your "z dot below" character. Show Character Palette and then View Glyph and Font Palatino - then Scroll down under. I guess that's why - somehow. Palatino is from Linotype, even the Apple Palatino. But Apple Palatino is still kind of system font to cover all Leopard available characters. The Linotype Palatino covers only a kind of European Union character repertoire - even the OpenType Pro versions - to get upgraded with next version to get billed for again - you know!?

HE

[shob72]

If I get it right, there is a «good» version of Palatino that contains all those special characters, and a «deficient» one, apparently my current one, that doesn’t. Is the «good» version downloadable or purchasable from somewhere?
(thank you for the view glyph idea; I did find "ż" there though not "ẓ" really)

[Elbrecht]

Sebastian -

in my eyes not a question of good or bad Palatino - Linotype has the "rights" and offers kind of "EU-only" version, whereas Apple wants Palatino to cover the text machine of Leopard's character repertoire and orders a more comprehensive "Unicode 5" version for the rest of us. That's why Apple offers "z dot below" - Linotype doesn't.

You didn't dig deep enough - "down under" - in Apple Palatino: look for characters #7300 and #7301 near the end of the font!

HE

[shob72]

I’d like to have this Unicode 5 version. How can I get it?

[Elbrecht]

Sebastian -

with OS X 10.5.6 have a look into "Macintosh HD/Library/Fonts" - it's just called "Palatino".
The "Font Book" has this information:

# # #

PostScript name Palatino-Roman
Full name Palatino
Family Palatino
Style Regular
Kind TrueType
Language Afrikaans, Albanian, Basque, Catalan, Cornish, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Esperanto, Estonian, Faroese, Finnish, French, Galician, German, Hawaiian, Hungarian, Icelandic, Indonesian, Irish, Italian, Kalaallisut, Latvian, Lithuanian, Malay, Maltese, Manx, Norwegian Bokmål, Norwegian Nynorsk, Oromo, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Somali, Spanish, Swahili, Swedish, Turkish, Welsh
Version 3.8
Location /Library/Fonts/Palatino
Unique name Palatino; 3.8; 2006-02-23
Copyright Copyright © 1991-99, 2006 Apple Computer, Inc. Copyright © 1991-92 Type Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.
Trademark Palatino is a registered trademark of Linotype AG
Enabled Yes
Duplicate No
Copy protected No
Embeddable Yes

# # #

Palatino comes with Leopard - or was it Tiger? Don't know - I did system upgrade...

HE

[shob72]

This seems to be my problem: It’s supposed to be there, only it’s not. Where can I get this Palatino if I do not have it?

[Elbrecht]

How comes?

Are you sure "Palatino" is not disabled/displaced by a font handling tool? Finder Search will help - may be?

HE

[martin]

I imagine the font is somewhere on the OSX installation DVD. Or what about copying the font from your other computer? If you can't find it, you might have to run the OSX installer again.

[Kino]

Where can I get this Palatino if I do not have it?

It would be too late but the font is Palatino 3.8 (2006) coming with iWeb, a component of iLife.

Although Palatino 3.8 has many uncommon characters, it does not fully cover even the Latin Extended character ranges of Unicode 1.1. Also, unlike Palatino Linotype, it does not support Greek polytonic at all.

Recently I got a Mac mini and found the font in Application Install DVD (Applications Install Disc/System/Installation/Packages/.packages/iWeb.pkg). So is it a hobby machine? ;-) My old Power Mac G4 brought me more serious applications: OmniOutliner, OmniGraffle, Snapz Pro, etc.