Feature request: "Your need to save now" alarm

[greenmorpher]

Hello all

I've mentioned this before. In the old NW, when Autosave was turned on you could work on a new, unsaved document for the Autosave interval, then a sound alarm and dialog would come up asking you to save. Which you did, being an obedient little devil.

I would like that to be added to NW now. I have to say, it never actually crashes so the need isn't great, but nevertheless, I can get into writing a document and work half a day without saving. I need the reminder to save the first time! Please? I do not need a ping every time NWP saves automatically -- that would be distracting and a source of errors.

Cheers, Geoff

Geoffrey Heard
Publisher, Editor, Business Writer
The Worsley Press

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[rmark]

Geoff,

I notice that nobody has added any thoughts here, which suggests that this is not an intensely felt need.

Perhaps one of the reasons the need is not perceived by others is that Nisus Writer Pro has the ability to save your file automatically without you ever even having to think about it.

You can set this by checking (turning on) Keep new documents in Document Manager without asking me (in conjunction with "Autosave every X minutes").

Then, later, when your thoughts are no longer on the writing, you can, if you desire, rename the file and save it anywhere else on your hard drive(s) you want.

[greenmorpher]

Hiya Mark

Didn't your mum tell you that "no news is good news"? There's no comment because everyone agrees with me and they think it's so obvious it goes without saying!

I don't want to fish around changing locations and deleting files form the document manager when I have finished writing (you should see my desktop). I just can't understand why a dialog can't pop up asking for the destination of the file at the end of ther first "autosave" interval from the start of the document. As an alternative to autosaving to the document manager, if you like.

ANOTHER SAVE MATTER

When I "save as" a new document template, .dot file, at the end of the operation, I have the open Nisus New File.dot file sitting on the screen. If I forgetfully start typing into that, I rapidly have a Nisus New File.dot full of autosaved text.

In an ideal world, saving a "Nisus New File.dot" or ANY .dot file would be followed by the auto action that the .dot file on screen would then switch to Untitled.rtf ready for work to start. Maybge it would mean NW just autocloses the .dot file after saving and opens an Untitled.rtf from it.

Possible?

Cheers, Geoff

Geoffrey Heard
Publisher, Editor, Business Writer
The Worsley Press

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[martin]

I don't want to fish around changing locations and deleting files form the document manager when I have finished writing (you should see my desktop).

I understand that desire, I hate clutter. Personally I'd never use the "keep new documents in Document Manager without asking me" option. I keep that option off, but autosave on, and only to "temporary backup files". You should try it- that way you won't lose any work (even for new/unsaved files) because a temporary backup will be kept in case of interruption, and you can save your file to its final destination whenever you please.

In an ideal world, saving a "Nisus New File.dot" or ANY .dot file would be followed by the auto action that the .dot file on screen would then switch to Untitled.rtf ready for work to start.

I don't think that's useful behavior- just saving a template file doesn't indicate that the user is done making modifications. I hit Command + S very frequently while I'm working.

[greenmorpher]

Hiya Martin

I don't want to fish around changing locations and deleting files form the document manager when I have finished writing (you should see my desktop).

I understand that desire, I hate clutter. Personally I'd never use the "keep new documents in Document Manager without asking me" option. I keep that option off, but autosave on, and only to "temporary backup files". You should try it- that way you won't lose any work (even for new/unsaved files) because a temporary backup will be kept in case of interruption, and you can save your file to its final destination whenever you please.

Oh -- so the "temporary" is permanent until the file is deliberately saved. Okay, I didn't get that. Right -- that works much better for me. I've set my prefs accordingly. Thanks for the pointer. I suppose it's in the manual ...

In an ideal world, saving a "Nisus New File.dot" or ANY .dot file would be followed by the auto action that the .dot file on screen would then switch to Untitled.rtf ready for work to start.

I don't think that's useful behavior- just saving a template file doesn't indicate that the user is done making modifications. I hit Command + S very frequently while I'm working.[/quote]
Yet that's how the old Nisus Writer used to work. You saved your Nisus New File as a template, leaving an Untitled window on screen ready for use. I think. (Or do I? I recollect. Is recollection "thinking" when it is pretty much automatic and is simply opening an old file to look at rather than creating a new one? But do I actually recollect? I believe I do. But if I don't, then my statement is the result of an act of imagination, a creation of my own mind, real thinking. I think! Or do I just believe? Is believing thinking? ...) (You'll have to forgive me, I'm reading Barbara Kingsolver's "La Lacuna". Wonderful writing, wonderful ideas. I believe I could find heaven reading that woman's shopping list.)

Cheers, Geoff

Geoffrey Heard
Publisher, Editor, Business Writer
The Worsley Press

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[martin]

Oh -- so the "temporary" is permanent until the file is deliberately saved. Okay, I didn't get that. Right -- that works much better for me.

You have that exactly right: the temporary backup is automatically cleared away once pending changes are saved.

In an ideal world, saving a "Nisus New File.dot" or ANY .dot file would be followed by the auto action that the .dot file on screen would then switch to Untitled.rtf ready for work to start.

I don't think that's useful behavior- just saving a template file doesn't indicate that the user is done making modifications. I hit Command + S very frequently while I'm working.

Yet that's how the old Nisus Writer used to work. You saved your Nisus New File as a template, leaving an Untitled window on screen ready for use. I think.

Without consulting an old user guide, I couldn't tell you if that's how Nisus Writer Classic worked. My mind can't recollect any such experience, since I've never edited a template in Classic. Though certainly my mind can think about such an event and how it might unfold in my imagination. But my experiences aside, what you suggest isn't standard and seems like pretty confusing behavior. Just because Classic did something, doesn't mean it was a good idea.