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Sadly, it's not for me

Post by Ian » 2007-07-17 03:34:32

This is an excellent, user-friendly, reasonably intuitive WP prog - there's lots to like in it. But sadly, it lacks a crucial feature for group working: the "track changes" tools that we've got used to in Word. It's often necessary to draft something and circulate it to colleagues for their revisions, and this feature makes it easy to follow who has made what changes. So unless I'm missing something, I have to revert to Word.
I also find it useful to have the drawing tools in Word, although I don't use them often - when I do want them, they're handy. It's sometimes easier to add drawn features (eg arrows, circles etc) within a doc than to import graphics from another prog.
This isn't a criticism of Nisus: it's a great WP prog at a very keen price - great value for money. And if ever these features are added, I'll be trying it again, but meantime, sadly - despite lots of good things in Nisus Pro - I'm now about to uninstall.
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sorry to hear

Post by gemboy27 » 2007-07-17 06:07:03

Ian,

Could you help me out with something?

I understand your decision, but I wonder why you make the proclamation? I never think to do this and wonder if there is something I am missing. Like I am looking to buy a clock radio, I am going to look at Radio Shack and will go to Target. I will look at Emerson brand and Colby, as well as a few others.

I would never think to write an email to all the people I decide not to use, should I be doing this?

Thanks.
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Post by greenmorpher » 2007-07-17 06:17:52

Hi Ian

The drawing thing is a hoot -- MS copied the provision of drawing in a WP from NW Classic.

I am intrigued though -- does your whole office use Mac with Word? Can Word on Mac read PC Word 2007 files?

Cheers, Geoff

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Re: sorry to hear

Post by martin » 2007-07-17 13:13:26

gemboy27 wrote:I understand your decision, but I wonder why you make the proclamation?
I think Ian was just letting us know what feature would move him to purchase NWP. I appreciate his kind words and treat the rest of his post as a feature request.

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Post by gemboy27 » 2007-07-17 18:44:21

I didn't mean that to be sarcastic or mean, I don't understand telling people you choose not to go with. I wonder if maybe it would be smart for me to start doing that....

I will delete the message if it is rude...sorry
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Post by martin » 2007-07-17 23:47:47

gemboy27 wrote:I didn't mean that to be sarcastic or mean, I don't understand telling people you choose not to go with. I wonder if maybe it would be smart for me to start doing that....
no no, I think we like you the way you are! But I can understand that he's just trying to express his opinion and let Nisus know why NWP isn't right for himself at this point.

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Post by gemboy27 » 2007-07-18 09:28:37

okay, but I fear that Dr. Word might take over my Nisus Universe

http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u202 ... drword.gif

take care -- thanks for all the work
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Post by martin » 2007-07-18 13:29:30

gemboy27 wrote:okay, but I fear that Dr. Word might take over my Nisus Universe
:lol: those are hilarious!

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more super heros

Post by gemboy27 » 2007-07-18 20:59:59

I use MarsEdit for my blog these are my favorite super hero images
Lasso and Earth Toss

um...did I mention I have too much time on my hands...?
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Post by Anne Cuneo » 2007-07-19 00:57:51

Gemboy27 wrote

um...did I mention I have too much time on my hands...?
Could you please send me some, I am being harried from all sides. :roll:

And OK, Martin, feature request - still, I am as puzzled as GemBoy at this loud expression of disappointment. :drunk:
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Post by spinningdoc » 2007-07-19 01:07:33

It's all feedback isn't it, for which I imagine Nisus are grateful as it helps them plan development. Or is only adulation allowed?

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Post by greenmorpher » 2007-07-19 03:32:03

The tracking changes feature is very useful when material is being edited. Recently a friend asked me to edit his short story which he had written in Word on a PC. (I have pointed out to him his gross lack of personal hygiene, i.e. he is of the Great Unwashed, but he refuses to change his barbarous WPing habits.)

I had to go through the story bracketing what I suggested he cut out and put in. A tracking changes tool would have been invaluable.

It is also very valuable when a team is putting together submissions, discussion papers, and so forth, which I get involved in from time to time.

The problem, of course, is whether this is included in RTF or is a proprietary MS thing in Word. While tracking changes would be useful in NW, it would be 20 times more useful if the NW tracking could show up in MS Word and Word tracking could show up in NW.

Cheers, Geoff

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work around

Post by gemboy27 » 2007-07-19 09:57:04

flying Nisus Man


I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, could you create a 'tracking formatting' and assign it to F13 and when you get to where you want to say:

Nisus man needs a new super power

you click F13 and type... You would also need a short cut back to your normal type style
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Post by psirx » 2007-07-19 15:41:36

Upon hearing about Nisus I was dearly hoping to get rid of Word (a bloated difficult app. at best) Unfortunately given my need for the track changes capability in Word I have to keep it. @#$%^&*(*&^%!!!!!
Is there any possible way that Nisus track's changes in a document? If not is that capacity possible to be make available in a future edition of Nisus? If track changes is available or is added to Nisus I will switch to Nisus in a nanosecond! However at this point my coauthors and I need this capacity so Damn it I am stuck with Word!

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Post by dshan » 2007-07-19 18:28:44

Psirx, I'm pretty sure that one day you will get your track changes feature in NWP. It's been a popular request since fairly early in the NWX release cycle, Nisus must by now be well aware how much it is desired by users. It just seems that people's cries for footnotes, endnotes, ToC and indexing were even more plaintive than those crying out for change tracking. Now that they have their features surely it's only a matter of time until change tracking gets a look in (along with multiple windows per document and mail merge hopefully). In the meantime Apple's Pages supports change tracking/comments quite well (including exchanging them with Word) and it often does a better job of reading hairy Word docs than Nisus. No one should have to use Word.

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